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Dr. Phil on the Seduction Community

Saturday, April 12th, 2008

A video clip just surfaced of Dr. Phil’s expose show on the seduction community, including guests Nick (Savoy?) and Scott from The Mystery Method, a couple average bleach-blond barfly girls who critique techniques, and Ross Jefferies himself (Mr. “Father of the Seduction Community”.)

You can view the video here.

I’m going to start out by saying that Dr. Phil, like Dr. Laura and any other Dr. First-Name-Only, doesn’t exactly qualify in my book as someone who seems overly interested in helping people improve their lives. Yeah, he’s got a show and writes books, but most of his advice is incredibly simplistic, bordering on sensationalist — and his shows are typically set up for the maximum emotional payout for the audience, rather than actual help for the people, or even an in-depth discussions of the issues presented. But hey, that’s how TV works (and that’s why I don’t watch TV).

The Show Itself
While watching this show, I couldn’t help but be think that, despite Dr. Phil’s own questionable motives, the set up of the show really put on display the community’s true colors. By the mid-way point in the show, RJ and the MM guys are just bickering about who’s creepier, and Dr. Phil is just sitting back and giggling while the barfly girls look on in feigned disdain.

Overall, the show seems to present the community in what I think is a pretty fair light — although before you watch, be warned, as the latter 1/3rd of the show is a completely unrelated scam-artist story that the shows’ producers decided to link to the seduction community for shock and scare factor. Apparently fear still motivates better than sex when it comes to prime-time TV.

As guests, the Mystery Method men seem to hold their own fairly well — at least to start. They have help, of course, from Dr. Phil’s traditional views on women (which we’ll get to in a moment). By the end of the show, however, it’s clear he’s built them up only to tear them down again.

Ross Jefferies gives an interesting interview. He starts out very calm and collected, and is even able to shrug off some of his purple marketing copy initially while trying to gloss over the fact that the core of his product is, and always has been, neuro-linguistic programming — but Dr. Phil focuses like a laser beam, and Jefferies gets flustered and starts trying to deflect attention onto how manipulative and creepy the Mystery Method system is. Ross, look in a mirror — not only is NLP totally invalid from a scientific point of view, it’s patronizing and manipulative and, as the MM guys pointed out, creepy.

The high point in the show comes just a few minutes in, when Dr. Phil answers a female audience member’s complaint that these guys are being inauthentic because they were taught these techniques:

But didn’t somebody teach y’all how to put your make up on, choose clothes, conduct yourselves as a lady?

Indeed. Glamor, Cosmo, Vogue, not to mention TV, movies, the internet, and hundreds of hours with female peers between the ages of 4 and, well, death.

Also:

Somebody invented the push-up bra for a reason.

It’s a rare day when I can say I agree with Dr. Phil, but on these statements, I couldn’t agree more. The seduction community may be a creepy, flashy-jewelry-wearing, hair-gel-piling dysfunctional family of former shy guys, but it’s the best thing guys have been able to put together so far to compete with the advanced social engineering women receive pretty much from birth.

BONUS: For those who are still reeling at my taste in women based on The Hot Babe Scale ratings, take a look at the audience member at 32:12. Where does she rate?