You Don’t Have to Be a Pimp
I feel there is a huge pressure placed on men today: the pressure to be a pimp.
The entire dating and seduction industry rests on the foundation of this pressure. The implicit message is essentially, “You’re not good with women.” And if you are good with women, you ought to be better.
Hey, guys with funny names like Mystery, Jlaix and Loverboy are having hot threesomes with strippers and models — and getting it on tape. Why aren’t you? It’s just a matter of skill.
The unspoken assumption is that all men want to have hot threesomes with strippers and models — and not just once, but consistently — as a lifestyle choice.
And while this may be arguably true, the seduction industry’s headlong charge into sexual perfectionism, lacking any consideration whatever of the needs and wants of individual men, has proven to be nothing more than self-interested opportunism dressed up in thin tissue of self-improvement lingo.
How They Do It
The seduction industry plays on men’s insecurities about their ability to relate to the opposite sex as comprehensively as the cosmetics and fashion industry plays on women’s insecurities about their relationships to their bodies. In Girl World, these carefully-cultivated insecurities keep women paying for face lifts, age-reducing mascara, and boob jobs.
And in Guy World, men’s magazines like GQ, FHM, Maxim and Stuff are only the mildest of violators — at least they bother to give their readers some credit (”maintain your buff bod”). The real culprit in Guy World is the burgeoning seduction industry, which bothers to bolster men’s egos only insofar as doing so will encourage them to open their wallets.
Part of the industry’s success comes, of course, from the very real biological drive most men feel to fuck hotter and hotter women — selection pressure, one might say, that drives our desires to at least try to hook up with women whose genes are a ‘best fit’ for ours.
But the industry (and a willing consumer society) amplifies this natural biological imperative and hypes it to ridiculous levels. From AXE deodorant commercials and the deluge of spin-offs to the nightclub and alcoholic beverage industry’s willing participation in the “get drunk and fuck” fallacy (a new banner ad campaign for Heineken Light in a can says, “Now seduction can happen anywhere”. Heineken = seduction? Give me a freaking break), it seems like every section of industry is trying to capitalize on the trend of seduction and picking up girls as “hip” by identifying their own products with a boost in a man’s seductive ability.
Why They Do It
Of course, this story is really as old as time. Back before the seduction industry got much mainstream attention (or even existed as a coherent money-making sector of the economy), advertisers were trying to identify products as boosting men’s natural “sex appeal”.
The idea being that if you drank Coors Light or wore a Rolex, you would just be so naturally “sexy” that women would come up to you and start fondling your chest and asking for your number.
Men, being flawed and insecure creatures just like women, are naturally motivated by these fallacious ideas, since “sex sells”; and men are also motivated to use sex to sell things to other men, since the profit motive inspires all men to desire fatter commissions (the better to buy Rolexes that will in turn make us more attractive to women).
The profit motive and the sex motive are, at core, the same motive — dominate, acquire, hoard, accumulate — the power on possessions, a shoring up of the exterior defenses to protect against attack by existential angst and a deep distrust of our own inalienable inner worth.
I Question Your Evaluation of What’s Best for Me
It’s great (or is it?) that advertiser are now giving men a more active role in things, but that doesn’t change the fact that they’re still trying to inspire jealousy and feelings of inadequacy in the rest of us. Why don’t throngs of women chase me down like in the Tag commercials? Why don’t women melt in my mouth, not in my hand, after I’ve used Wintery Ice breath strips?
I must need more seduction training.
And that’s where the industry steps in, with $50 ebooks, $300 DVD series, and $1500 weekend seminars, to make me a better man. More capable with women (because I’m not capable enough already). More of a pimp.
The idea is that, as men, we really just need to keep climbing the ladder of sex: from our first ugly girlfriend to our second less-ugly girlfriend to our third kinda cute girlfriend to our fourth totally smoking hot girlfriend, who actually turns into something more of a fuck buddy, and then we add another “spinning plate” and suddenly we’re rockstars in mLTR land (multiple long term relationships, essentially modern harems).
The problem is, I happen to believe that, for many guys — in fact perhaps for most guys — the modern harem life is not the key to happiness (reproductive or otherwise).
Now, I fully appreciate the irony of my writing this on a seduction blog that has done its fair share of perpetuating the idea that any guy can get ridiculously good with women (i.e., be a pimp), and it’s all just a matter of skill.
(My argument in my own defense is that I haven’t charged anybody for the information and advice I’ve offered, and indeed offered it in an anti-competitive spirit of improving men’s relationships with women for their own good. The feedback I’ve gotten via email suggests that the guys most helped by this site are the guys starting at the very bottom of the ladder, so to speak, those who were previously trapped in unfulfilling relationships with girls who were cheating on them (for example).)
But, all excuses aside, I have come to a place in life where I realize that although the modern harem life may be ideal for some (small subset of) men, it is by no means ideal for all men and, in fact, the pursuit of it will probably lead most men to frustration, disillusionment, violent objectification of women, anger and suffering.
Seduction’s Zero Sum Game
At this point, some suspicious guys (of which I used to be one) might accuse me of writing this whole diatribe just to throw them off the scent. Those humanitarian seduction gurus blew the doors of their social perception, and opened their eyes to a wider world, in which hot threesomes with strippers were possible even for pot-bellied high-school dropouts living in their parents’ van down by the river.
I, a nobody know-nothing anonymous blogger, am just trying to throw them off the scent, and keep the mountains of untapped hot stripper pussy to myself by enforcing the status quo of social standards.
This viewpoint, apart from being pretty paranoid, presupposes a zero-sum model of human interactions: there is a hard limit to the amount of fulfillment or enjoyment one man can get from one woman and, therefore, the men with more women are automatically and mathematically more happy, by some amount dictated by an unspecified linear equation.
I think the reality is closer to a different viewpoint: that the effects of happiness in truly fulfilling relationships are multiplicative, not additive, and multiplicative in a non-linear and in fact non-mathematical way.
I’m here to suggest that there is no limit to the amount of fulfillment and enjoyment one man can find in conjunction with one woman.
And, furthermore, that a man with the largest harem in the world, filled with the most beautiful and freshest virgins from every corner of the globe, could still be the most miserable and unloved carbuncle on humanity’s collective ass.
Regular readers of the site need not freak out at my choice of language (especially “one man, one woman”) above; I am by no means suddenly advocating for monogamy or, heaven help us, matrimony. I still feel that people ought to be free to explore their relational options at all times, save for self-imposed commitments of the carefully considered sort.
I’m merely saying that the “life’s a bitch, be it’s pimp” attitude is a bad fit for the majority of men out there.
In fact, I think the majority of Western men would actually be happier in committed, monogamous, long term relationships — maybe even with kids — provided their significant other is a respectful, loving, realistic woman.
I also believe all men need to go through a “sowing wild oats” stage, and part of this site’s mission is to lay out some best practices for that stage — but as one of my business partners said, even the biggest horndog eventually wants to settle down.
As always, I’m open to dissent.
June 24th, 2007 at 10:33 am
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June 25th, 2007 at 1:22 am
Thanks for the post man =D
June 25th, 2007 at 12:43 pm
Welcome Back, 30+
Great post and I completely agree with most of which you said. Even at 23, when I’m “supoose” to running around screwing a different girl every week and having threesome with Freshman Girls, cough I mean hot strippers, I sitll agree. Most men dream about threesome, for several reasons and two of them being these; 1) They feel the need to bloster their masculinity, because they feel less of a man in an area such as, home, work, school, a marriage etc. 2) Most western men, have that western mentality “if one is good, then two is better”.
Also I like how you isolated the “Sex industy” and dissected to give the “Seduction industy” it’s own identity. Very nice touch.
Later,
J
June 25th, 2007 at 10:48 pm
I think this article may make some guys cringe. But I have read all of your articles and I think there is a silver lining in all of them. And thats dissarming the human pre-conception between men and women. And that relates to all aspects be it a single guy or commited one. And the term pimp is so played out and only says that you base a guys worth off of a womens validation of him. So I do agree and nice article.
-Ty
June 26th, 2007 at 8:42 am
I think the settling down thingy is transient and the wild oats bit, quite persevering. The instinct is networked to many other things so if your wife and/or children can ease the pressure off the network, u may slip into a settling down mode.
The mind refuses to settle down; lecherous thoughts (wild oats type) keep popping up as late as the nineties. My dad’s ninety seven (bed ridden) and they can’t keep female home nurses with him cos he gropes and fondles them all.
July 4th, 2007 at 5:33 am
This comment is really kind of gushy and stupid and I don’t care if you post it, I just want you to know I genuinely appreciate your work.
All I can say is how impressed I am with this entry and your blog in general. You really get this stuff, your level of thought and analysis on this is two or three layers deeper than anyone else I’ve read in the pickup community. And you have infinite credibility in my eyes because YOU AREN’T SELLING ANYTHING. Thank you for blogging, your insight is always profound, keep it coming.
July 4th, 2007 at 7:01 pm
This might sound sappy, but I agree with Gamble’s comment. Thirtyplus - your blog is one of the best PUA/seduction/relationship blogs I’ve found. And I’ve read a lot of blogs on this subject. You’re not selling anything (you’re not even promoting affiliate products) and your posts are insightful, intelligent, and nicely written. It’s not the same-old rehashed PUA stuff that you find everywhere.
I just wanted to say thank you for writing and maintaining this blog. I know it’s a lot of work to keep producing great content (especially when there’s no financial incentive to do so), but I really appreciate it. Keep writing!
Re: The Pimp Lifestyle - For most guys, I think the fantasy is better than the reality. Marketers are savvy and they’re selling the dream/fantasy of multiple women who can be easily possessed/acquired if you know “the secrets” (sold for only $1997 through a bootcamp). The idea that “more is better” - more cars, more money, more possessions, more women - is heavily promoted by the mainstream media and I think guys get sucked into this mentality. But “more” (especially more of the same) does not always make people happier, or contribute to a higher-quality of life. So, I agree with you on this.
July 21st, 2007 at 3:14 pm
another GREAT post, as always;)
please keep up the really good work and the excellent articles you provide
if u ever think about publishing a book of ur own, ill buy it right away
head up!
August 3rd, 2007 at 5:05 pm
I absolutely agree with this post as well. I recently read Neil Strauss’ book “The Game”, and even HE comes to the conclusion that continuous sarging for more and more girls just for the sake of it eventually leads nowhere.
However, I think every guy at some point needs to get out there and sample a variety of women so he know’s what’s out there and can find out what he REALLY likes so he’ll know a good thing when he’s ready to settle down.
Peace
August 14th, 2007 at 11:12 pm
I like your post, because it emphasises something I’ve always thought is an important part of seduction in itself - to know what you want! I agree that it’s not all about being a pimp and having regular threesomes, foursomes and moresomes. But I think it’s also important to remember that, for some people, that’s exactly what they want :)
October 31st, 2007 at 3:50 pm
Well thought-out, well-written. I’d like to see you expand it, and challenge some of the other assumptions built into PUA writing, that tends toward the programming of social robots (great term; thanks, Style). I think that the emphasis on club pickups is part of that.
In order to successfully “work” a club, all you need are sufficient skills and prep, and then you walk into an environment where basically everybody is looking to hook up (except for a very few women who are there at least mainly to deal with esteem and self-esteem issues by shooting guys down). It’s like hooking fish in a barrel; just a question of the right bait, lure, and technique in reeling them in. If you’re not reeling in enough, watch the guys who have a string in their creel and learn.
What’s usually called “Day Game” is entirely different; it’s both an order of magnitude easier and more difficult.
December 19th, 2007 at 10:57 am
THANK YOU for giving another insight into this. Other than ‘All men want a threesome and will not stop until they get one (even if it possibly ruins their relationship)’.
June 2nd, 2008 at 1:47 am
You’re a smart guy. Thank you so much for this entire blog. I’m reading it voraciously.
Again, sincere appreciation for your writings