What is a Shit Test?
The shit test is possibly the most brilliant social weapon women have in their arsenal.
Also known as a “congruency test”, the shit test is a tool used by women both consciously and unconsciously to “screen” the men they come into contact with into one of two categories: potential friend or potential lover.
The Evolutionary Underpinnings of the Shit Test
Women, being blessed with only a limited number of eggs (chances to reproduce) are sexual selectors: they must chose who they will (and will not) sleep with.
Men, having a basically unlimited number of sperm, ought to try to impregnate as many women as physically possible, in hopes that some of them will bear children.
Therefore, women are sexually receptive, and men are sexually aggressive. Women get many more offers for sex than men, and must choose which, if any, man she will decide to pair her eggs with in an effort to carry on her genes.
These evolutionary facts have carried over into modern society and dating despite recent technological advances like condoms and hormonal birth control.
But condoms and birth control are logical instruments; and choosing a mate is an emotional process for a woman.
Women, especially attractive women, get plenty of offers for sex - therefore they have learned to put a large part of their “screening” method on autopilot.
That automatic screening method is the shit test.
Examples and Logical Structure
A shit test is a beautiful double-edged sword; or maybe a more apt analogy is a Gordian knot, or the proverbial horns of a dilemma. It is usually phrased as a half statement / half question.
The most common shit test know to man is:
Does my bum look big in this?
Or, in a similar vein,
I’m fat
These question/statements have two very specific answers. One can either answer positively or negatively. As in,
“Yeah, actually, those pants do make your bum look fat.”
Or,
“No, honey! Those don’t make you look fat at all.”
The crux of the dilemma, of course — and what makes shit tests so powerful — is that the girl doing the testing already knows the answer to her question, and therefore, both answers are “wrong”.
If a girl is asking you if you think she’s fat, or if something makes her LOOK fat, then I will guarantee you that either A) she IS fat, or B) whatever she’s wearing DOES make her look fat.
If you respond in the positive, and affirm the reality that she already knows to be true, you are an asshole, because you are insulting her (doesn’t matter that she invited you to do so).
On the other hand, if you DENY the reality that she is / looks fat, you are LYING TO HER FACE. She now knows you cannot be trusted; she sees that you are just trying to pacify her and make her feel good.
The question arises: “But don’t women just want us to make them feel good, all the time?”
Yes and no. Women want to feel good, yes; but what makes them feel good is knowing they are attached to a real man, a man with his feet firmly set in reality, a man who can lead them and protect them — a man, in short, who doesn’t pander, doesn’t fear their opinions, and generally makes his own way.
A man, in short, who won’t lie to them to make them feel good.
So let’s refine our definition of shit test.
A screening question or statement the answer to which is already know, that is structured in such a way that answering truthfully will kill the asker’s attraction to you, and answering untruthfully will expose you as a liar for the rest of the conversation.
So here are some more examples of shit/congruency tests, to help you get a better feel…
What kind of car do you drive?What do you do for a living?
What kind of degree do you have?
You say this to all the girls, don’t you?
You’re a player, aren’t you?
That’s a funny line, did you learn that on the Internet?
What were you doing last night?
You’re funny (confident, sexy, any “compliment” given too freely)
I’m not going to sleep with you
I’m going to sleep with you
You think you’re hot shit, don’t you?
The idea is, all of these questions TEMPT you to lie (in order to placate her). At the same time, if you resist the temptation and tell the truth, you’re not much better off - because you just responded in a logical, boring and descriptive way to a stupid rhetorical question, and now she sees you as just another boring, logical, descriptive guy who is trying to prove himself to her — instead of a guy who can lead her in conversation and in life.
Do you see how brilliantly this structure screens guys? It truly separates the boring, normal guys who won’t be able to excite her (in conversation and certainly not in bed) from the oily line-spitting guys who are just trying to talk their way into her pants.
If you watch Swingers, there’s a scene where Mike and all the guys are at a Hollywood Hills party, and Mike and that guy from Office Space approach a pair of hot model-types. Mike makes a nice, calm introduction, and the first thing out of one of the girl’s mouths is:
What kind of car do YOU drive?
Mike is so shocked by this random question that he stammers and she has to repeat it - by which point he’s *already failed* the shit test (then, of course, after she’s repeated the question, he ANSWERS it, and is promptly blown out).
What the model was doing, of course, was screening him for status. A high-status guy (movie producer type) would have a very expensive car. But of course, since the model could already tell that Mike wasn’t high status, she knew that the fastest way to blow him out was to throw him that shit test that he couldn’t possibly pass. (A movie producer, by the way, although he *would* have an expensive car, wouldn’t tell her what kind of car he drove if he really was high-status. More on that in a minute).
Ahah, but there’s the rub: shit tests are not ironclad screening tools. In fact, there is a way to pass them - or more accurately, a mental structure that will enable you to pass any shit test, anytime, anywhere, from any woman.
Passing Shit Tests - the Formulas that works 100% of the time
As it turns out, there are a couple of ways you can pass a shit test, strike through the Gordian knot / slip between the horns of the dilemma.
- Ignore it
Pretend you didn’t hear. Laugh it off or just pay attention to something else for a second. Let it roll off your back like water on a duck. This sounds easy, but to do it fully 100%, you have to really be totally nonreactive - I’m talking about down to the level of unconscious pupil dilation here. Otherwise she thinks you’re just avoiding answering - which is better than answering, but is still not going to make her very attracted to you.By ignoring it totally, though, you are saying in effect, “I won’t be tested. I totally refuse.” Which is dominant, but still a very blatant cop-out. Which is why I’ll only use this method as an absolute last resort, if I really am caught off-guard and blindsided by some test. - Agree and Amplify
If a girl says “I’m fat,” then “Yes, you’re HYOOOOOGE.” Or “It’s just more cushin’ for the pushin’.” Agree and Amplify; show her you’re not afraid to piss her off, but do it in a playful way. Don’t INSULT her; poke fun at her (gently). The worst you’ll get is a swat on the arm and that is proof that she is more attracted, not less.Some people might also call this a “reframe”; a term which I believe is probably borrowed from political discourse terminology. You’ve taken her frame (the shit test) and turned it into something entirely different and non-threatening.For instance, if she says, “You’re a tough guy, aren’t you?” You might say, “Yeah, so what is it you like about tough guys anyway?” Deliberately mis-interpreting her question as adoration, not a shit-test.
Reframing / Agreeing and Amplifying is powerful. It’s my preferred method of answering shit tests. It demonstrates that not only are you not needy / logical, but neither are you willing to fall into her trap and try to lie to her face.
Being able to sidestep the shit test is one of the most important aspects of interacting with women. Without this knowledge, you will get shot down / disqualified 95% of the time by truly “hot” women automatically, without them even thinking about it. I’ve written a lot lately about more “advanced” topics like bisexual girlfriends and threesomes, but I really think this post, and getting this one area handled, is responsible for guys getting into better interactions, more quickly, than all the advanced sex-theory I will *ever* write.
Ultimately, we should be glad for shit tests. They help ensure that every woman we met hasn’t already been plowed up one side and down the other by 15,000 other random guys.
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February 9th, 2007 at 9:03 pm
How do you use the ‘agree and amplify method’ to pass the shit test of ‘What type of car do you drive?’ or ‘I’m not going to sleep with you’ or ‘You seem sad?’
February 10th, 2007 at 12:41 am
>What type of car do you drive?
I have a little tricycle….it’s red…..
(disarms the status-question payload of the shit test)
>I’m not going to sleep with you
Woah tiger, who said anything about sex, I’m not easy ;0 (slap her ass)
>You seem sad
Yes….I am…there is a sad little boy inside me just looking for love in all the wrong places….and he is sad and lonely (make pouty lip and big puppy dog eyes at her and watch her melt)
You have to really play to the hilt to pull off these types of responses….ie. be comfortable with them, and deliver them in a relaxed way….but play them up so it’s OBVIOUS you are teasing….
February 14th, 2007 at 9:26 pm
>What type of car do you drive?
- I drive planes. (shock, reframe, laugh)
- I dont. I Prefer drive womans… (C&F)
- Girls always love me for my money…
- Are you tyin to seduce me? You think you are my type? Cna you cook?
… and thousands more!
Love this blog, dude!
March 27th, 2007 at 5:54 am
Who’s got awesome answers to these shit test questions?
shit test: You’re too young / how old are you
Shit test: I like your friend.
Shit test:”Hey I’m going to ask you a question and u are going to answer a straight ‘Yes’ or ‘No’ alright. ‘Does your mum know ur gay?’
shit test: sorry sweety, you have no chance with us…. do you mind leaving now
March 29th, 2007 at 11:46 pm
How old are you:
A: Guess.
You’re too young:
So what is it you like about younger guys?
I like your friend:
OMG, *I* like YOUR friend!
Does your mum know you’re gay:
This isn’t a shit test, this is an attempt to blow you out. Something went wrong before this (not enough DHV? not enough attraction?)
No chance with us / please leave:
this is you being blown out. Not a shit test.
June 3rd, 2007 at 4:23 pm
“sorry sweety, you have no chance with us…. do you mind leaving now”
hmm, trully does sound like a signal to actually leave.
but i love a challenge… can i get some response on these suggestions:
perhaps say:
“who needs a chance? ive got you listening to me dont i?”
or
“a chance? ive already used mine to get your attention. more than any other guy in here is going to do.”
- and here you make sure you body language is turning away from her, as though you got what you wanted.
“besides, what makes you so sure you have a chance with me?”
or
“by calling me ’sweety’ you assume i taste good. whats that about?”
or
“you are so cute, like my baby sister!” and then look at her friends “is she always like this?” Then before they say anything, give them your time constraint (because im guessing you havent done this, hence getting a “Go away” resposne), and go from there.
none of this is field tested, so i wont claim that. you’ve given me a great scenario to play on and get inventive so i now have lines to try. get blown out with style!
July 23rd, 2007 at 2:46 pm
“..the shit test is one of the most important aspects of interacting with women. Without this knowledge, you will get shot down / disqualified 95% of the time by truly “hot” women automatically..”
Having miserably failed countless of shit test now that i know what they are.. my only gripe is about passing them. Knowing what a shit test is makes a heck of differnce to my inishgt into woman.
July 25th, 2007 at 6:51 pm
Shit test:”Hey I’m going to ask you a question and u are going to answer a straight ‘Yes’ or ‘No’ alright. ‘Does your mum know ur gay?’
Ok, I’d like to give you a straight yes, but I’ll give u a gay no.
or
U mean right now? Depends on the mood really…
or
No, my dad is still workin on it..
July 29th, 2007 at 8:19 am
What kind of car do you drive?
I’m not sure. I’ll have to ask my chauffeur.
Does my ass look fat?
Don’t worry about it. I like girls with a bit of meat on their bones.
What do you do for a living?
You mean, before I retired? (especially if you’re young) I made some very good trades on the derivatives market.
What kind of degree do you have?
Qualified by Experience. I’ve thought of teaching from time to time, but most of what I know can only be gained by practice.
You’re a player, aren’t you?
No, I’m usually quite serious. Being a “player” is juvenile.
That’s a funny line, did you learn that on the Internet?
Oh, people are quoting me on the net now? Cool.
What were you doing last night?
I met with the president of , to talk about endowing an engineering professorship. What did you accomplish yesterday?
You’re funny (confident, sexy, any “compliment” given too freely)
Yeah, goes with the territory. You should have seen me before I made my first ten million.
I’m not going to sleep with you
Oh, I’ll let you get *some* rest.
I’m going to sleep with you
Only if you convince me that I want you.
You think you’re hot shit, don’t you?
I’ve never thought of myself as “shit” of any kind. I can’t really fathom why so many people have that kind of self-esteem problem.
August 13th, 2007 at 10:28 am
“I’m not going to sleep with you.”
“Good. I’m not tired.”
October 3rd, 2007 at 2:37 pm
What if after the shit test question, she rebounds and asks for the truth after your obvious tease, e.g.
Her: Does this make my butt look big?
You: I can’t tell from here, would you mind if I climb on top of it to get a better look?
Her: Very funny, really though, do you think it does?
October 4th, 2007 at 1:49 am
Elohel, that sounds like a relationship to me.
If she really wants to know your opinion, it wasn’t a shit test in the first place. She is asking because she really trusts your opinion and wants it. That’s a compliment to you.
November 21st, 2007 at 9:02 am
i wandered why that shit always seemed to work with me!!! i never really gave it a name, but whenever women have asked me questions like that in the past i just took the piss out of them (in a nice way) exactly like you’re giving examples of… thankyou 30+ i will keep an eye on women doing that from now on!
November 21st, 2007 at 9:10 am
i may start giving them shit tests from now on see how they like it, lol…