Comments on: Approach Women vs Opening Women

By: thirtyplus

thirtyplus — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 02:59:13 +0000

It’s normal for guys to pressure you. It’s expected you’ll lie but I think it’s better if you don’t. Just tell them you’re working on it and keep hanging out with them. It’s going to be more helpful in the long run if you work with other guys, you have more opportunities to learn from their good and bad examples.

But don’t feel like you have to lie to be well regarded. That’s just macho bull.

By: doug

doug — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 04:53:24 +0000

30 plus alotta advice from these seduction guys are to hang around the successful guys and emulate well I’m hanging around and tryin to emulate them,but now I’m gettin pressure from these guys to get results and I havent gotten a damn thing , I dunno whether to lie say I’m getting laid too, and still try to gain success or to hangout with no one until I can get the skills I need to know which choice would be more helpful to myself.

By: doug

doug — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 16:27:04 +0000

well thirtyplus, once again we went out, and I opened (cuz none of my friends would or think they can open ,but my alpha friend was like relax your shoulders, and make more eye contact you always look tense, I did that and I’m seeing improvement and my female wing told me the girl I was talking too was gonna come and chill with us, until I was like gangbang at rickys and your invited. Also in the car my female wing who was the girl my buddy slept with ,was like rickys cool hes so chill and so is Scott (another friend of mine she hooked up 1st nite with cuz hes chill. I’m guessing I need to be more chill rofl…

By: thirtyplus

thirtyplus — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 00:53:04 +0000

Hey doug,

It’s clear what you should do. You should start a career as a pick up artist instructor!! All your students would get laid and you would make millions.

Kidding. All joking aside, I wonder a few things:

1) do girls see you as too sexually threatening (as opposed to your afc friends)
2) do girls see you as too reactive and reaction-seeking (as opposed to your cool friends who just ‘chill’)
3) do girls see you as too try hard (because you are doing all the work in the interactions)

Try this. Go out with your friends (who you got laid) and have THEM open and do all the work while you lay back chill and say nothing. Report back how that works.

By: doug

doug — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 03:49:20 +0000

I don’t know if this on topic with this article, but 30 plus can explain why my situation keeps happening to me , ok for like the past month I’ve been doing approaches and opening sets, I don’t do it in clubs I’m doing them in malls and campuses (I’m in college) I did an approach in the local mall and it was me and two other guys I called a girl over to where I was sitting and opened with who do wanna makeout with ..she was shocked said she had a bf anyways she walks away we run into her again in hollister apparently she works there so anyways she gravitates to the asian guy who was with me He wasnt sayin a word number close for him,flash forward to a week later me and two other guys talk to a hired gun I open and do all the talking and she gravitates towards my friend number close for him, and just this last week I reach my lowpoint I opened 2 two sets at the college campus and a lonewolf in the mall ..for all sets I opened my friends stayed silent I number closed and invited them to the same venue (I play in band so Invited em to my show) so now after the show the lonewolf goes for my friend who is a photographer I invited (an extreme afc in fact a virgin a the time) and the other girl I invited gravitates towards the singer (he was with me dead silent whole time while watched me closed her too (and 1 girl from the other 2set went for the the singer who was also with me and was not speaking so needless to say I helped assisted in 2 lays ( my friend lost his virginity lol) and 1 future lay I do all the opening all the talking number closing get the alchohol or the spot where the sex happens but Im getting no sex what the fuck…supposedly it could be my bad grooming habits my friends tell me (I have thick eyebrows,and a mustache all over the place …shit I figure that wouldnt be an issue past the openerand my attitude is solid (not supplicating) …30 plus can you figure out/tell me what the hell I’m doing wrong …..